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Monday, July 23, 2012


Does God exist?

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Date: 22 July 2012 14:46

Subject: //Dil Se Desi// Does God exist?

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My fav author KS writes in Hindustan Times…

“Once again, some philosophers and theologians have revived their believe in the existence of God.  They use different names for Him, Her or It.  God can be Brahma, the Creator. Godcan be Allah, Rabb, Jesus, Parmeshwar and Waheguru.  In any event, whatever name you give Him, He is regarded as the Creator of Life.  If you ask believers that, if God created life, then who created Him, they have no answer.  The truth is that life on earth was not created.  It evolved, as did every living creature.  It was not created by any person by whatever name you choose to call Him or Her.  There was no Creator.  It is not God who created us, we created God.

(Me: I wholeheartedly agree.  The Jainism was given birth to in 3rdor 2nd Century BC, Buddhism in the 2nd, Hinduism followed soon, Christianity in the 1st Century AD and Islam in the 6th. Human beings existed at least since the Stone Age, thousands of years before any of the religious came into being, not to be speak of the lesser forms of life.

Most of the violent strife, killings and terrorism on earth owe their origins to the interpretation of the religious tenets by their followers.  So, the religions, far from guiding their followers in the path of righteousness and peaceful co-existence within and without their faithful, actually lead the followers to take the law into their hands and enforce their own interpretation on others.   Since the canons are subject to so grotesque interpretation and enforcement, does it not therefore follow that all religions are bad?  If God did exist, why did He not restrain His adherents from taking to violence, make them clearly understand the true meaning of the canons and how to orderly conduct themselves?.  Furthermore, none the religious edicts were written by Him)





MY COMMENTS

                Everyone has the liberty to own or disown assets or God or any relations. Freedom of life. Sorry I wrongly stated it--it is FREEDOM OF "I". Because, "LIFE" definition claim is still pending. Freedom with "I" is certain, but as one accuses that there is no god because theologian is yet to prove it, since giving life has not yet been found by science, till the mystery is cracked, Let the opposite team stay as NEGATORS have also not proved the non-existence, so can’t escape the onerous job, by escapism , by shifting the onus. Here onus lie on both shoulders and as Robert Frost said "long way to go before so many generations sleep, since man knows only 4% of the universe (after 2000 yrs? I stretch) so for that with lot of doubts.

                    People (there is a book 50 reasons to prove no god -written by western author-which is as vague as this) may say they can create replicas of lfe so they had found life. But is it so? It is as good as telling that adding rice to hot water and boiling I have created sadam-food; did he create the rice down run to source of life in rice? No. Science had just DISCOVERED Not CREATED. Discover is uncovering the lid to see inside that is it. Mystery of Brain is not understood for 97%. Life is what, unknown. When in baby it arrives? No one knows. When does it leave? We call it as Linga shareera, and air is by product cause. But you also have not established by yourself for creation as creator. So aviveka or ignorance is on both sides, but we have done certain base but have you?

                      Rig Veda said that "who knows ,it was there'. What would you have said about you parents or mother on the date of seeing the world about their or her existence if could u talk? "WHO KNOWS, THEY WERE THERE! ?. IGNORANCE REMOVER IS RELIGION and each shall find for himself if you have interest as your hunger appeasement is your outlook. Only mother can it for kid as long as its in the womb--see it is IT before and after and what is making IT as HE OR SHE OR THEY OR YOU OR I OR INDEX IS LIFE AND NO-LIFE is not yet discovered and therefore HE or SHE or SOME CAPITAL exist as GOD.

                   You want us to prove so that you will change side; WE WANT YOU TO DISPROVE SO THAT WE MAY CHANGE SIDE; right? ONUS OF PROOF LIE ON ONE WHO DENIES THE LAW.

                        Rishi Kapila son of and descended from Kasyapa and Athri, said "purusha'" existed; but laid a theory that it is prakrithi (nature) started the creation. .

( Incidentally Buddha followed Kapila ) ( Adi Sankarar also to certain extent as for as MAYA ). Because matter was there when he was born he laid a theory of creation. Even then he knew and demanded a truth that ENERGY (later termed as SHAKTHI as supreme viz SHE instead HE), to become kinetic, there shall exist POTENTIAL AND PUSH (which science said as BIG BANG and we said as OHM PRANAVAM) which is GOD. Kapila deduced this and for creation adopted nature, and THIS WAS ALSO MANMADE BUT YOU HAVE ACCEPTED IT OR SWALLOWED IT like a fish. However when we swallowed something you question us. HOW CAN YOU FIGHT WITH ONE SIDE OF THE COIN THE OTHERSIDE? Is it fair and it not fallacy?

                       India had given only corruption and negation as rewards for people; is it a right statement? But you say so; India does not but it is rulers, politicians, u & me, yet you never say so but attribute as INDIA. So also for the malaise created by the individuals you blame God. Is it right? When your mother slaps you for the mistake of your brother committed and shifted the focus as if you, you agitate; but you accuse with your fore finger the AWARENESS as God, WHILE you forget to notice that three other fingers are pointing out at you only.

                                      WE CALL IT AS MAYA; WE CALL IT AS KARMA; WE EXPLAIN IT; YOU SAY IT IS MAN MADE; BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT; I HAVE NOT SEEN WHAT DARWIN DID TO SAY SOMETHING; BUT BY READING SCIENCE BOOK I SWALLOW IT; I BELIEVE THERE IS PROOF AS GIVEN THERE; I AM WILLING TO BELIEVE; OOPS, DARWIN THEORY IS ALTERED AND CHALLENGED AND CHANGED; AGAIN I BEKIEVE IT FROM THE BOOK AND AS GIVEN AS PROOF; THEN WHAT HAPPENNED TO MY PRIOR BELIEF?; WAS IT WRONG,THEN? OH SOME ONE CREATED A VIOLATION, YET I DONT BLAME THE PAST? I DONT SAY MAN MADE; I SAY "WE WILL CORRECT OURSELVES IF WE GO WRONG"; SUPER---- COINING OF WORDS --JUGGLERY.

                          May be the order of religion placed in unintentional; there is no denial of the fact that there is no "HINDUISM" (A COINED WORD OF BRITISH), but SANATHANA DHARMA whose age accepted ultimately 7000 to 10000 years; and hence it can’t be Jainism, Buddhism and Hinduism etc.

                      Finally denial is our freedom. We don’t deny the drunken father; we don’t  a PRO mother we don’t our inefficiency; we don’t deny" what we don’t know" totally; we don’t deny " our ignorance'; we deny what we don’t want to do or can’t do; we deny as fluke when someone does; that is MIND we have, an "abstract", but we use and misuse it in  words and deeds, casually. BUT WE TALK TALL ABOUT WHAT WE DONT KNOW VIZ GOD, because we are we.

                       Thank you Brothers. K Raja ram IRS


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